In October 2020, two years before ChatGPT, I sat down with Juan Enriquez for 90 minutes to talk about right and wrong.

Not tech #ethics. Ethics.

Juan’s argument is unsettling in the best possible way: much of what we feel certain is right today rests on the technology we happen to have. Change the technology and the moral ground shifts underneath us, usually before anyone notices.

Which raises a question I still can’t shake. If our grandchildren will judge some of our certainties the way we judge our grandparents’, which ones will it be? And what happens when we hand moral decisions to machines trained on today’s certainties?

Juan has given nine TED talks, sailed around the world on an expedition that multiplied the number of known genes a hundredfold, and sat on the peace commission that negotiated a ceasefire with the Zapatistas. He also calls himself a very curious and optimistic Cro-Magnon.

We went from Catholic ethics to humility and forgiveness, from homo evolutis and #transhumanism to veganism, techno-solutionism, #AI and the singularity. Plus why those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.

Six years on, with algorithms shaping what billions of people believe, that last line lands very differently.

Watch or listen to my full conversation with Juan Enriquez here: [ https://snglrty.co/4esH6Mc](https://snglrty.co/4esH6Mc)

Juan Enriquez is a bestselling author and, with 9 talks, TED All-Star. Check out his interview on ‘Right/Wrong: How Technology Transforms Our Ethics’