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Joscha Bach: “Consciousness is a Second Order Perception”

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You’re not just perceiving the world — you’re perceiving that you perceive, and Joscha Bach says that loop is what consciousness actually is. The AI researcher and cognitive scientist unpacks consciousness as second-order perception: not raw data like a self-driving car has, but a model of the modeller that keeps the observer stable inside a self-organizing brain. From there it gets stranger — Bach argues the reality you experience is a real-time simulation your brain renders, running at the speed your neurons fire. He explains why subjective experience tops out around 20–50Hz, why that points to consciousness being brain-produced rather than fundamental, and why the self you think you are is a disembodied pattern using a body to reproduce itself.

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  1. We do not have a thought/perception — WW ARE the thought/perception.

    To describe us as different from our experiences is a mistake about how we perceive

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