13 years ago, I sat down with Peter Joseph, musician, filmmaker, and founder of the Zeitgeist Movement.

His argument was simple, and uncomfortable: the system we live under (debt-based money, work-for-survival economics, infinite growth on a finite planet) isn’t broken. It’s working exactly as designed. And it’s running out of runway.

In 2013, this sounded radical. In 2026, it sounds like a weather report.

We covered a lot of ground in 75 minutes: the Resource-Based Economy, the role of Artificial Intelligence in managing scarcity, the schism between Zeitgeist and the Venus Project, sustainability, central planning, and the technological singularity itself.

You don’t have to agree with Peter to take the conversation seriously. I don’t agree with all of it. But the questions he was asking back then are the questions we’re being forced to ask now, except we’re asking them in an era when AI systems can actually do things he could only theorize about.

The technology has caught up with the critique. The philosophy hasn’t caught up with the technology.

Worth a listen, even if (especially if) you think he’s wrong.

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Zeitgeist founder Peter Joseph talks about his movies, the movement and his vision for the future. Check out his interview on SingularityWeblog.com