Brian Kennedy is a renowned biologist, leader in aging research, & director of the Center for Healthy Longevity at the National University of Singapore. In this episode, Brian shares insights from ongoing human aging studies, including clinical trials of rapamycin & how dosing strategies, timing, & exercise may influence outcomes. He presents two key models of aging—one as a linear accumulation of biological decline & the other as an exponential rise in mortality risk—& explains why traditional models of aging fall short. He also explains why most current aging biomarkers lack clinical utility & describes how his team is working to develop a more actionable biological clock. Additional topics include the potential of compounds like alpha-ketoglutarate, urolithin A, & NAD boosters, along with how lifestyle interventions—such as VO2 max training, strength building, & the use of GLP-1 & SGLT2 drugs—may contribute to longer, healthier lives.
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0:00:00-Intro.
0:01:15-Brian’s journey from the Buck Institute to Singapore, & the global evolution of aging research.
0:09:12-Rethinking the biology of aging.
0:14:13-How inflammation & mTOR signaling may play a central, causal role in aging.
0:18:00-Biological role of mTOR in aging, & the potential of rapamycin to slow aging & enhance immune resilience.
0:23:32-Aging as a linear decline in resilience overlaid with non-linear health fluctuations.
0:36:03-Speculating on the future of longevity: slowing biological aging through noise reduction & reprogramming.
0:42:18-The role of the epigenome in aging, & the limits of methylation clocks.
0:47:14-Balancing the quest for immortality with the urgent need to improve late-life healthspan.
0:52:16-Comparing the big 4 chronic diseases: which are the most inevitable & modifiable?
0:57:27-Exploring potential benefits of rapamycin: how Brian is testing this & other interventions in humans.
1:09:14-Testing alpha-ketoglutarate (AKG) for healthspan benefits in aging [1:01:45];
1:13:41-Exploring urolithin A’s potential to enhance mitochondrial health, reduce frailty, & slow aging.
1:17:35-Potential of sublingual NAD for longevity.
1:26:50-Other interventions that may promote longevity: spermidine, 17 HRT, & more.
1:34:33-Biological aging clocks, clinical biomarkers, & a new path to proactive longevity care.
1:45:01-Evaluating rapamycin, metformin, & GLP-1s for longevity in healthy individuals.
1:51:19-Why muscle, strength, & fitness are the strongest predictors of healthspan.
1:53:37-Why combining too many longevity interventions may backfire.
1:56:06-How AI integration could accelerate breakthroughs in aging research.
2:02:07-Need to balance innovation with safety in longevity clinics.
2:10:50-Peter’s reflections on emerging interventions & the promise of combining proven aging compounds.
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