{"id":237157,"date":"2026-05-14T19:03:58","date_gmt":"2026-05-15T00:03:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/2026\/05\/this-physicist-unexpectedly-derived-gravity-from-information"},"modified":"2026-05-14T19:03:58","modified_gmt":"2026-05-15T00:03:58","slug":"this-physicist-unexpectedly-derived-gravity-from-information","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/2026\/05\/this-physicist-unexpectedly-derived-gravity-from-information","title":{"rendered":"This Physicist (Unexpectedly) Derived Gravity from Information"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<p><iframe style=\"display: block; margin: 0 auto; width: 100%; aspect-ratio: 4\/3; object-fit: contain;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/ilVImMHcr_g?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope;\n   picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Sponsors: Accelerate your efficiency. Sign up for your one-dollar-per-month trial today at <a href=\"http:\/\/shopify.com\/theories\">http:\/\/shopify.com\/theories<\/a> Sign up for Claude today at <a href=\"http:\/\/claude.ai\/theoriesofeverything\">http:\/\/claude.ai\/theoriesofeverything<\/a> and checkout Claude Pro \u2014 which includes access to all of the features mentioned in today\u2019s episode. I personally subscribe to The Economist. FLASH SALE to May 18: 50% off annual (double the usual!) No other podcast has this! <a href=\"https:\/\/economist.com\/TOE\">https:\/\/economist.com\/TOE<\/a><\/p>\n<p>What if gravity is just entropy in disguise? Professor Erik Verlinde joins me to argue that gravity isn\u2019t a fundamental force\u2014it\u2019s thermodynamic, emerging from quantum information the way gas pressure emerges from molecules bouncing around. We explore why spacetime may be stitched together by entanglement, and how dark energy and dark matter both pop out automatically without extra particles or parameters. Verlinde explains why the cosmological constant problem is a red herring, and why there may be no final theory of physics. When asked where the universe comes from, his answer is one word: chaos.<\/p>\n<p>SUPPORT: Support me on Substack: <a href=\"https:\/\/curtjaimungal.substack.com\/su\">https:\/\/curtjaimungal.substack.com\/su<\/a>\u2026 me on Crypto: <a href=\"https:\/\/commerce.coinbase.com\/checkou\">https:\/\/commerce.coinbase.com\/checkou<\/a>\u2026 Support me on PayPal: <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.com\/donate?hosted_\">https:\/\/www.paypal.com\/donate?hosted_<\/a>\u2026 JOIN MY SUBSTACK (Personal Writings): <a href=\"https:\/\/curtjaimungal.substack.com\">https:\/\/curtjaimungal.substack.com<\/a> LISTEN ON SPOTIFY: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4gL14b9\">https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4gL14b9<\/a>\u2026 TIMESTAMPS: <\/p>\n<ul class=\"\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<li>00:00:00 \u2014 Thermodynamic Gravity and Information <\/li>\n<li>00:06:35 \u2014 Beyond Effective Field Theory <\/li>\n<li>00:13:08 \u2014 Turtles All The Way Down <\/li>\n<li>00:25:41 \u2014 Entropy as a Force <\/li>\n<li>00:36:31 \u2014 Entanglement and Spatial Connectivity <\/li>\n<li>00:47:31 \u2014 Deriving Inertia and F=ma <\/li>\n<li>00:56:41 \u2014 De Sitter Space Challenges <\/li>\n<li>01:02:01 \u2014 Dark Matter and Milgram <\/li>\n<li>01:11:51 \u2014 The Emergence of Time <\/li>\n<li>01:21:01 \u2014 Statistical Gravity Fluctuations <\/li>\n<li>01:27:01 \u2014 Quantum Computational Complexity <\/li>\n<li>01:36:01 \u2014 Physics Intuition and Mentorship <\/li>\n<li>01:47:31 \u2014 Beauty, Garbage, and Chaos <\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p> LINKS MENTIONED: Papers, books, websites: <\/p>\n<ul class=\"\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/scholar.google.com\/citations?\">https:\/\/scholar.google.com\/citations?<\/a>\u2026 <\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/journals.aps.org\/prb\/pdf\/10.1\">https:\/\/journals.aps.org\/prb\/pdf\/10.1<\/a>\u2026 <\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/1001.0785\">https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/1001.0785<\/a> <\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/1611.02269\">https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/1611.02269<\/a> <\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/journals.aps.org\/pr\/pdf\/10.11\">https:\/\/journals.aps.org\/pr\/pdf\/10.11<\/a>\u2026 <\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/amazon.com\/dp\/0486600688?tag=\">https:\/\/amazon.com\/dp\/0486600688?tag=<\/a>\u2026 <\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/248030a0\">https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/248030a0<\/a> <\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Transl\">https:\/\/en.wikisource.org\/wiki\/Transl<\/a>\u2026 <\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/gr-qc\/9504004\">https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/gr-qc\/9504004<\/a> <\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/hep-th\/0603001\">https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/hep-th\/0603001<\/a> <\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/1005.3035\">https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/1005.3035<\/a> <\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/hep-th\/0106112\">https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/hep-th\/0106112<\/a> <\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/pdf\/1408.3203\">https:\/\/arxiv.org\/pdf\/1408.3203<\/a> <\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/1911.02087\">https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/1911.02087<\/a> <\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/1905.08255\">https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/1905.08255<\/a> <\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ias.edu\/sns\/events\/iaspct\">https:\/\/www.ias.edu\/sns\/events\/iaspct<\/a>\u2026 <\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/amazon.com\/dp\/0262533413?tag=\">https:\/\/amazon.com\/dp\/0262533413?tag=<\/a>\u2026 <\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p> Videos: <\/p>\n<ul class=\"\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<li> <img alt=\"\" class=\"\"> \u2022 A 2 Hour Deep Dive into Entropy <\/li>\n<li> <img alt=\"\" class=\"\"> \u2022 The Mathematics of String Theory [Graduate\u2026 <\/li>\n<li> <img alt=\"\" class=\"\"> \u2022 The Debate That Divides Physics: Is the Un\u2026 <\/li>\n<li> <img alt=\"\" class=\"\"> \u2022 The Physicist Who Found Quantum Theory\u2019s U\u2026 <\/li>\n<li> <img alt=\"\" class=\"\"> \u2022 Retrocausality &amp; The Transactional Interpr\u2026 <\/li>\n<li> <img alt=\"\" class=\"\"> \u2022 The Physicist Who Proved Entropy = Gravity <\/li>\n<li> <img alt=\"\" class=\"\"> \u2022 The Physicist Who Says Time Doesn\u2019t Exist <\/li>\n<li> <img alt=\"\" class=\"\"> \u2022 The Most Astonishing Theory of Black Holes <\/li>\n<li> <img alt=\"\" class=\"\"> \u2022 The (Simple) Theory That Explains Everythi\u2026 <\/li>\n<li> <img alt=\"\" class=\"\"> \u2022 The Crisis in String Theory is Worse Than\u2026 <\/li>\n<li> <img alt=\"\" class=\"\"> \u2022 Dark Dimensions: NEW THEORY Unifying Dark\u2026 <\/li>\n<li> <img alt=\"\" class=\"\"> \u2022 MIT Scientist\u2019s Discovery: \u201cBlack Holes Mi\u2026 <\/li>\n<li> <img alt=\"\" class=\"\"> \u2022 The Woman Who Broke Gravity | Claudia de Rham <\/li>\n<li> <img alt=\"\" class=\"\"> \u2022 Solving the Problem of Consciousness | Ste\u2026 <\/li>\n<li> <img alt=\"\" class=\"\"> \u2022 Frederic Schuller: The Physicist Who Deriv\u2026 <\/li>\n<li> <img alt=\"\" class=\"\"> \u2022 The Loop Quantum Gravity Debacle: Carlo Ro\u2026 <\/li>\n<li> <img alt=\"\" class=\"\"> \u2022 An (Elementary) Introduction to Quantum Co\u2026 <\/li>\n<li> <img alt=\"\" class=\"\"> \u2022 Can Physics Explain Its Own Laws? <\/li>\n<li> <img alt=\"\" class=\"\"> \u2022 The Nobel Laureate Who (Also) Says Quantum\u2026 <\/li>\n<li> <img alt=\"\" class=\"\"> \u2022 This Cosmologist Discovered Something Stra\u2026 <\/li>\n<li> <img alt=\"\" class=\"\"> \u2022 Michael Levin: Consciousness, Biology, Uni\u2026 <\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p> SOCIALS: <\/p>\n<ul class=\"\" dir=\"ltr\">\n<li>Twitter: <img alt=\"\" class=\"\"> \/ toewithcurt <\/li>\n<li>Discord Invite: <img alt=\"\" class=\"\"> \/ discord <\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p> Guests do not pay to appear. Theories of Everything receives revenue solely from viewer donations, platform ads, and clearly labelled sponsors; no guest or associated entity has ever given compensation, directly or through intermediaries. #science.<\/p>\n<p>JOIN MY SUBSTACK (Personal Writings): <a href=\"https:\/\/curtjaimungal.substack.com\">https:\/\/curtjaimungal.substack.com<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>LISTEN ON SPOTIFY: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4gL14b9\">https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4gL14b9<\/a>\u2026<\/p>\n<p>TIMESTAMPS: 00:00:00 \u2014 Thermodynamic Gravity and Information 00:06:35 \u2014 Beyond Effective Field Theory 00:13:08 \u2014 Turtles All The Way Down 00:25:41 \u2014 Entropy as a Force 00:36:31 \u2014 Entanglement and Spatial Connectivity 00:47:31 \u2014 Deriving Inertia and F=ma 00:56:41 \u2014 De Sitter Space Challenges 01:02:01 \u2014 Dark Matter and Milgram 01:11:51 \u2014 The Emergence of Time 01:21:01 \u2014 Statistical Gravity Fluctuations 01:27:01 \u2014 Quantum Computational Complexity 01:36:01 \u2014 Physics Intuition and Mentorship 01:47:31 \u2014 Beauty, Garbage, and Chaos.<\/p>\n<div class=\"more-link-wrapper\"> <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/2026\/05\/this-physicist-unexpectedly-derived-gravity-from-information\">Continue reading \u201cThis Physicist (Unexpectedly) Derived Gravity from Information\u201d | &gt;<\/a><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sponsors: Accelerate your efficiency. 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