{"id":212250,"date":"2025-04-23T17:04:54","date_gmt":"2025-04-23T22:04:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/2025\/04\/the-big-bang-never-happened-eric-lerner-demystifysci-337"},"modified":"2025-04-23T17:04:54","modified_gmt":"2025-04-23T22:04:54","slug":"the-big-bang-never-happened-eric-lerner-demystifysci-337","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/2025\/04\/the-big-bang-never-happened-eric-lerner-demystifysci-337","title":{"rendered":"The Big Bang Never Happened? Eric Lerner, DemystifySci #337"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<p><iframe style=\"display: block; margin: 0 auto; width: 100%; aspect-ratio: 4\/3; object-fit: contain;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/TMuMNgxbKh8?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope;\n   picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Eric Lerner is a popular science writer, plasma physicist, and long-time collaborator of the late Nobel laureate Hannes Alfv\u00e9n. He\u2019s also one of the featured speakers at our Beyond the Big Bang event this summer in Sesimbra, Portugal. For over thirty years, Lerner has been a leading voice in plasma cosmology and a critic of Big Bang cosmology, who argued for a non-expanding, steady state universe as the central claim of his landmark book The Big Bang Never Happened (affiliate link to puchase: <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/4jEez8H).\">https:\/\/amzn.to\/4jEez8H).<\/a> Our conversation dives into the history and foundations of plasma cosmology, from early Birkeland current experiments in the Arctic that revealed the electrical nature of the aurora, to the role of plasma dynamics in the shape and behavior of galaxies. All the hits are in here \u2014 from Halton Arp, whose Atlas of Peculiar Galaxies seriously challenged the way that mainstream cosmologists interpret redshift, to the electromagnetic forces often overlooked in mainstream cosmology, to the filamentary plasma structures and cosmic-scale currents that strain the limits of the standard model. This is a deep exploration of alternative cosmology, electric universe theories, and the scientists behind them \u2014 from Fred Hoyle to Anthony Peratt \u2014 who refused to patch a dying theory and instead asked instead if the universe might be eternal.<\/p>\n<p>MAKE HISTORY WITH US THIS SUMMER:<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/demystifysci.com\/demysticon-2025\">https:\/\/demystifysci.com\/demysticon-2025<\/a><\/p>\n<p>PATREON<br \/> \/ demystifysci.<\/p>\n<p>PARADIGM DRIFT<br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/demystifysci.com\/paradigm-dri\">https:\/\/demystifysci.com\/paradigm-dri<\/a>\u2026 Go! 00:05:59 \u2013 The Cosmological Pendulum 00:14:09 \u2013 Knowledge and Societal Progress 00:22:18 \u2013 Big Bang Origins &amp; Ideological Influence 00:29:04 \u2013 Technological Stagnation Since the 1970s 00:32:02 \u2013 Ideology Replacing Empiricism in Science 00:36:14 \u2013 Gravity vs. Electromagnetism in Cosmology 00:41:02 \u2013 Evolution of Scientific Funding Models 00:51:11 \u2013 Birkeland Currents &amp; Plasma Discoveries 00:56:25 \u2013 Centralization of Postwar Science 01:00:18 \u2013 Orthodoxy in Medicine 01:00:59 \u2013 Decline of Fundamental Research 01:04:39 \u2013 Plasma Cosmology vs. Dark Matter 01:08:52 \u2013 Capitalism and Research Priorities 01:14:22 \u2013 Sustaining Independent Science 01:15:16 \u2013 Birkeland, Alfv\u00e9n &amp; Plasma History 01:22:24 \u2013 Einstein\u2019s Rise &amp; Cultural Legacy 01:31:05 \u2013 General Relativity and Elitism 01:34:44 \u2013 Chapman\u2019s Math vs. Empirics 01:37:12 \u2013 Alfv\u00e9n\u2019s Plasma Breakthroughs 01:43:39 \u2013 Plasma Physics vs. Big Bang Theories 01:47:39 \u2013 Nobel Prize &amp; MHD\u2019s Hidden Flaws 01:58:00 \u2013 Filamentary Plasmas vs. MHD 02:00:47 \u2013 Pseudoplasmas and MHD Limits 02:02:58 \u2013 Defining Plasma as a State of Matter 02:06:00 \u2013 Where Plasma Exists in Nature 02:11:17 \u2013 The Myth of Mathematical Models 02:21:10 \u2013 Scientific vs. Aesthetic Cosmology 02:29:55 \u2013 Failed Big Bang Predictions 02:36:01 \u2013 Alternatives to the Expanding Universe 02:43:09 \u2013 Large-Scale Structures and Cosmic Age 02:50:10 \u2013 Public Science and Open Debate 02:55:16 \u2013 Toward a New Cosmological Paradigm #plasma #bigbang #darkmatter #electricuniverse, #cosmology, #astrophysics, #scientificrevolution, #fusionenergy, #philosophypodcast, #sciencepodcast, #longformpodcast ABOUS US: Anastasia completed her PhD studying bioelectricity at Columbia University. When not talking to brilliant people or making movies, she spends her time painting, reading, and guiding backcountry excursions. Shilo also did his PhD at Columbia studying the elastic properties of molecular water. When he\u2019s not in the film studio, he\u2019s exploring sound in music. They are both freelance professors at various universities. 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