{"id":156184,"date":"2023-01-24T21:26:49","date_gmt":"2023-01-25T03:26:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/2023\/01\/ben-goertzel-emergence-reduction-artificial-intelligence"},"modified":"2023-01-24T21:26:49","modified_gmt":"2023-01-25T03:26:49","slug":"ben-goertzel-emergence-reduction-artificial-intelligence","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/2023\/01\/ben-goertzel-emergence-reduction-artificial-intelligence","title":{"rendered":"Ben Goertzel \u2014 Emergence, Reduction &amp; Artificial Intelligence"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<p><iframe style=\"display: block; margin: 0 auto; width: 100%; aspect-ratio: 4\/3; object-fit: contain;\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/er4DYZ2JJ9g?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; encrypted-media; gyroscope;\n   picture-in-picture\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>The concept of emergence is controversial to some \u2014 for example Eliezer Yudkowski, who favors reductionism, wrote a critique at Less Wrong (see link below). Do reductionists often dismiss emergence?<\/p>\n<p>Ben formalized emergence in his book \u2018The Evolving Mind\u2019 as patterns that appear when you put two or more things together that are not there in any of the individual parts.<br \/> Book \u2014 \u2018The Evolving Mind\u2019: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.goertzel.org\/books\/mind\/contents.html\">http:\/\/www.goertzel.org\/books\/mind\/contents.html<\/a> <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Evolving-Futures-General-Evolution-Studies\/dp\/2881245870?tag=lifeboatfound-20\">http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Evolving-Futures-General-Evolution-Stu\u2026atfound-20<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Eliezer\u2019s post on \u2018The Futility of Emergence\u2019 at Less Wrong: <a href=\"http:\/\/lesswrong.com\/lw\/iv\/the_futility_of_emergence\/\">http:\/\/lesswrong.com\/lw\/iv\/the_futility_of_emergence\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Talking points: EMERGENCE &amp; REDUCTION, CONFUSION REGARDING EMERGENCE, LARGE SCALE NEUROSCIENCE PROJECTS, EMERGENCE AS A WAY OF EXPLAINING AWAY COMPLEXITY, IS CONSCIOUSNESS AN EMERGENT EFFECT? EMERGENCE &amp; ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE<\/p>\n<p>The Attack of the Aliens from Vector Space: Steps Toward a Complex Systems Theory of Categorization and Similarity: <a href=\"http:\/\/www.goertzel.org\/papers\/catpap.html\">http:\/\/www.goertzel.org\/papers\/catpap.html<\/a> (Emergence &amp; Compression) Extract: \u201cThe important concept of emergent pattern is defined: a pattern emerges between two entities if it is present in the combination of the two entities, but not in either of the entities separately. And the structural complexity of an entity is defined as the \u201ctotal amount\u201d of pattern in it. If the Metapattern is accepted, then these two concepts become essential to any analysis of biological reality.<\/p>\n<p>We turn from these abstractions to a concrete biological example: the mammalian immune system. The theory of clonal selection states that immune systems evolve by natural selection; using the computer simulations of Alan Perelson, Rob deBoer and their colleagues as a guide, we inquire as to the exact nature of this evolution.<\/p>\n<div class=\"more-link-wrapper\"> <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/2023\/01\/ben-goertzel-emergence-reduction-artificial-intelligence\">Continue reading \u201cBen Goertzel \u2014 Emergence, Reduction &amp; Artificial Intelligence\u201d | &gt;<\/a><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The concept of emergence is controversial to some \u2014 for example Eliezer Yudkowski, who favors reductionism, wrote a critique at Less Wrong (see link below). Do reductionists often dismiss emergence? Ben formalized emergence in his book \u2018The Evolving Mind\u2019 as patterns that appear when you put two or more things together that are not there [\u2026]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":661,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[11,47,6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-156184","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-biotech-medical","category-neuroscience","category-robotics-ai"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/156184","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/661"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=156184"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/156184\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=156184"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=156184"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=156184"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}