{"id":144990,"date":"2022-08-27T20:24:41","date_gmt":"2022-08-28T01:24:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/2022\/08\/electrocorticographic-evidence-of-a-common-neurocognitive-sequence-for-mentalizing-about-the-self-and-others"},"modified":"2022-08-27T20:24:41","modified_gmt":"2022-08-28T01:24:41","slug":"electrocorticographic-evidence-of-a-common-neurocognitive-sequence-for-mentalizing-about-the-self-and-others","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/2022\/08\/electrocorticographic-evidence-of-a-common-neurocognitive-sequence-for-mentalizing-about-the-self-and-others","title":{"rendered":"Electrocorticographic evidence of a common neurocognitive sequence for mentalizing about the self and others"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"padding-right: 20px\"><a class=\"aligncenter blog-photo\" href=\"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog.images\/electrocorticographic-evidence-of-a-common-neurocognitive-sequence-for-mentalizing-about-the-self-and-others.jpg\"><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Using electrocorticography (ECoG), we probed the neurocognitive substrates of mentalizing at the level of neuronal populations. We found that mentalizing about the self and others recruited near-identical cortical sites (Fig. <a data-track=\"click\" data-track-label=\"link\" data-track-action=\"figure anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-022-29510-2#Fig5\">5a, b<\/a>) in a common spatiotemporal sequence (Figs. <a data-track=\"click\" data-track-label=\"link\" data-track-action=\"figure anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-022-29510-2#Fig5\">5 <\/a>c and <a data-track=\"click\" data-track-label=\"link\" data-track-action=\"figure anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-022-29510-2#Fig6\">6<\/a>). Within our ROIs, activations began in visual cortex, followed by temporoparietal DMN regions (TPJ, ATL, and PMC), and lastly in mPFC regions (amPFC, dmPFC, and vmPFC; Fig. <a data-track=\"click\" data-track-label=\"link\" data-track-action=\"figure anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-022-29510-2#Fig3\">3e, f<\/a>). Critically, regions with later activations exhibited greater functional specialization for mentalizing as measured by three metrics: functional specificity for mentalizing versus arithmetic (Figs. <a data-track=\"click\" data-track-label=\"link\" data-track-action=\"figure anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-022-29510-2#Fig3\">3 <\/a>c, d and <a data-track=\"click\" data-track-label=\"link\" data-track-action=\"figure anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-022-29510-2#Fig4\">4b<\/a>), self\/other differentiation in activation timing (Fig. <a data-track=\"click\" data-track-label=\"link\" data-track-action=\"figure anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-022-29510-2#Fig5\">5c, d<\/a>), and temporal associations with behavioral responses (Fig. <a data-track=\"click\" data-track-label=\"link\" data-track-action=\"figure anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-022-29510-2#Fig4\">4D<\/a> and Table <a data-track=\"click\" data-track-label=\"link\" data-track-action=\"table anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-022-29510-2#Tab1\">1<\/a>). Taken together, these results reveal a common neurocognitive sequence<sup><a data-track=\"click\" data-track-action=\"reference anchor\" data-track-label=\"link\" data-test=\"citation-ref\" title=\"Felleman, D. J. & Van Essen, D. C. Distributed hierarchical processing in the primate. Cereb. Cortex. Cereb. Cortex 1, 1&ndash;47 (1991).\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-022-29510-2#ref-CR28\" id=\"ref-link-section-d133370021e4245\">28<\/a>,<a data-track=\"click\" data-track-action=\"reference anchor\" data-track-label=\"link\" data-test=\"citation-ref\" title=\"Mormann, F. et al. Latency and selectivity of single neurons indicate hierarchical processing in the human medial temporal lobe. J. Neurosci. 28, 8865&ndash;8872 (2008).\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-022-29510-2#ref-CR29\" id=\"ref-link-section-d133370021e4245_1\">29<\/a>,<a data-track=\"click\" data-track-action=\"reference anchor\" data-track-label=\"link\" data-test=\"citation-ref\" title=\"Diaconescu, A. O. et al. A computational hierarchy in human cortex. arXiv:1709.02323 [q-bio] (2017).\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-022-29510-2#ref-CR30\" id=\"ref-link-section-d133370021e4245_2\">30<\/a>,<a data-track=\"click\" data-track-action=\"reference anchor\" data-track-label=\"link\" data-test=\"citation-ref\" aria-label=\"Reference 31\" title=\"Hilgetag, C. C. & Goulas, A. \u2018Hierarchy\u2019 in the organization of brain networks. Philos. Trans. R. Soc. B: Biol. Sci. 375, 20190319 (2020).\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-022-29510-2#ref-CR31\" id=\"ref-link-section-d133370021e4248\">31<\/a><\/sup> for self-and other-mentalizing, beginning in visual cortex (low specialization), ascending through temporoparietal DMN areas (intermediate specialization), then reaching its apex in mPFC regions (high specialization).<\/p>\n<p>Our results are consistent with gradient-based models of brain function, which posit that concrete sensorimotor processing in unimodal regions (e.g., visual cortex) gradually yields to increasingly abstract and inferential processing in \u2018high-level\u2019 transmodal regions like mPFC<sup><a data-track=\"click\" data-track-action=\"reference anchor\" data-track-label=\"link\" data-test=\"citation-ref\" aria-label=\"Reference 41\" title=\"Margulies, D. S. et al. Situating the default-mode network along a principal gradient of macroscale cortical organization. PNAS 113, 12574&ndash;12579 (2016).\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-022-29510-2#ref-CR41\" id=\"ref-link-section-d133370021e4255\">41<\/a>,<a data-track=\"click\" data-track-action=\"reference anchor\" data-track-label=\"link\" data-test=\"citation-ref\" aria-label=\"Reference 42\" title=\"Huntenburg, J. M., Bazin, P.-L. & Margulies, D. S. Large-scale gradients in human cortical organization. Trends Cogn. Sci. 22, 21&ndash;31 (2018).\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-022-29510-2#ref-CR42\" id=\"ref-link-section-d133370021e4258\">42<\/a><\/sup>. We found that the strength of self\/other differences in activation timing increased along a gradient from visual cortex to mPFC. Specifically, other-mentalizing evoked slower (Fig. <a data-track=\"click\" data-track-label=\"link\" data-track-action=\"figure anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-022-29510-2#Fig5\">5c<\/a>) and lengthier (Fig. <a data-track=\"click\" data-track-label=\"link\" data-track-action=\"figure anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-022-29510-2#Fig5\">5d<\/a>) activations than self-mentalizing throughout successive DMN ROIs. These self\/other functional differences corresponded with self\/other differences in RT<sub>Behav<\/sub> (Supplementary Fig. <a data-track=\"click\" data-track-label=\"link\" data-track-action=\"supplementary material anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-022-29510-2#MOESM1\">4<\/a>), although the two were often dissociable (Table <a data-track=\"click\" data-track-label=\"link\" data-track-action=\"table anchor\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-022-29510-2#Tab1\">1<\/a>). Thus, perhaps because we know ourselves better than others, other-mentalizing may require lengthier processing at more abstract and inferential levels of representation, ultimately resulting in slower behavioral responses.<\/p>\n<p>What might our results imply about extant fMRI findings? Hundreds of fMRI studies consistently suggest that: TPJ and dmPFC are most crucial for mentalizing<sup><a data-track=\"click\" data-track-action=\"reference anchor\" data-track-label=\"link\" data-test=\"citation-ref\" aria-label=\"Reference 6\" title=\"Lieberman, M. D. 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Biobehav. Rev. https:\/\/doi.org\/10.1016\/j.neubiorev.2018.12.021 (2019).\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-022-29510-2#ref-CR32\" id=\"ref-link-section-d133370021e4299\">32<\/a>,<a data-track=\"click\" data-track-action=\"reference anchor\" data-track-label=\"link\" data-test=\"citation-ref\" title=\"Denny, B. T., Kober, H., Wager, T. D. & Ochsner, K. N. A meta-analysis of functional neuroimaging studies of self and other judgments reveals a spatial gradient for mentalizing in medial prefrontal cortex. J. Cogn. Neurosci. 24, 1742&ndash;1752 (2012).\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-022-29510-2#ref-CR33\" id=\"ref-link-section-d133370021e4299_1\">33<\/a>,<a data-track=\"click\" data-track-action=\"reference anchor\" data-track-label=\"link\" data-test=\"citation-ref\" title=\"Bzdok, D. et al. Segregation of the human medial prefrontal cortex in social cognition. Front. Hum. Neurosci. 7,232 (2013).\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-022-29510-2#ref-CR34\" id=\"ref-link-section-d133370021e4299_2\">34<\/a>,<a data-track=\"click\" data-track-action=\"reference anchor\" data-track-label=\"link\" data-test=\"citation-ref\" aria-label=\"Reference 35\" title=\"de la Vega, A., Chang, L. J., Banich, M. T., Wager, T. D. & Yarkoni, T. Large-scale meta-analysis of human medial frontal cortex reveals tripartite functional organization. J. Neurosci. 36, 6553&ndash;6562 (2016).\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nature.com\/articles\/s41467-022-29510-2#ref-CR35\" id=\"ref-link-section-d133370021e4302\">35<\/a><\/sup>. However, when examined with ECoG, we found that both pieces of received wisdom are not what they seem. Below, we discuss both issues before moving onto our peculiar vmPFC results, and then conclude with systems-level discussion.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Using electrocorticography (ECoG), we probed the neurocognitive substrates of mentalizing at the level of neuronal populations. We found that mentalizing about the self and others recruited near-identical cortical sites (Fig. 5a, b) in a common spatiotemporal sequence (Figs. 5 c and 6). Within our ROIs, activations began in visual cortex, followed by temporoparietal DMN regions [\u2026]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":427,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1635,47],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-144990","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-materials","category-neuroscience"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/144990","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/427"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=144990"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/144990\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=144990"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=144990"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=144990"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}