{"id":144078,"date":"2022-08-15T23:57:10","date_gmt":"2022-08-16T04:57:10","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/2022\/08\/donald-hoffman-%ce%bb-joscha-bach-on-consciousness-free-will-and-godel-theolocution"},"modified":"2022-08-15T23:57:10","modified_gmt":"2022-08-16T04:57:10","slug":"donald-hoffman-%ce%bb-joscha-bach-on-consciousness-free-will-and-godel-theolocution","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/2022\/08\/donald-hoffman-%ce%bb-joscha-bach-on-consciousness-free-will-and-godel-theolocution","title":{"rendered":"Donald Hoffman \u039b Joscha Bach on Consciousness, Free Will, and G\u00f6del [Theolocution]"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" title=\"Donald Hoffman \u039b Joscha Bach: Consciousness, G\u00f6del, Reality\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/bhSlYfVtgww?feature=oembed\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p>Deep dive into the nature of consciousness and reality.<\/p>\n<p>Sponsors: <a href=\"https:\/\/brilliant.org\/TOE\">https:\/\/brilliant.org\/TOE<\/a> for 20% off. For Algo\u2019s podcast <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UC9IfRw1QaTglRoX0sN11AQQ\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UC9IfRw1QaTglRoX0sN11AQQ<\/a> and website <a href=\"https:\/\/www.algo.com\/\">https:\/\/www.algo.com\/<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Patreon: <a href=\"https:\/\/patreon.com\/curtjaimungal\">https:\/\/patreon.com\/curtjaimungal<\/a>.<br \/> Crypto: <a href=\"https:\/\/tinyurl.com\/cryptoTOE\">https:\/\/tinyurl.com\/cryptoTOE<\/a><br \/> PayPal: <a href=\"https:\/\/tinyurl.com\/paypalTOE\">https:\/\/tinyurl.com\/paypalTOE<\/a><br \/> Twitter: <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/TOEwithCurt\">https:\/\/twitter.com\/TOEwithCurt<\/a>.<br \/> Discord Invite: <a href=\"https:\/\/discord.com\/invite\/kBcnfNVwqs\">https:\/\/discord.com\/invite\/kBcnfNVwqs<\/a>.<br \/> iTunes: <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/ca\/podcast\/better-left-unsaid-with-curt-jaimungal\/id1521758802\">https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/ca\/podcast\/better-left-unsaid-wit\u20261521758802<\/a><br \/> Pandora: <a href=\"https:\/\/pdora.co\/33b9lfP\">https:\/\/pdora.co\/33b9lfP<\/a><br \/> Spotify: <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e\">https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e<\/a>.<br \/> Subreddit r\/TheoriesOfEverything: <a href=\"https:\/\/reddit.com\/r\/theoriesofeverything\">https:\/\/reddit.com\/r\/theoriesofeverything<\/a>.<br \/> Merch: <a href=\"https:\/\/tinyurl.com\/TOEmerch\">https:\/\/tinyurl.com\/TOEmerch<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>LINKS MENTIONED:<br \/> \u2013QBism Paper: <a href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/1003.5209\">https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/1003.5209<\/a><br \/> \u2013Donald Hoffman\u2019s book The Case Against Reality (affiliate): <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/34eWmxz\">https:\/\/amzn.to\/34eWmxz<\/a>.<br \/> \u2013Plato and the Nerd (affiliate): <a href=\"https:\/\/amzn.to\/34GMexr\">https:\/\/amzn.to\/34GMexr<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>TIMESTAMPS:<br \/> 00:00:00 Introduction.<br \/> 00:03:34 Is a Theory of Everything possible? \/ Definition of Consciousness.<br \/> 00:08:32 Spacetime\u2019s fundamental nature (or not)<br \/> 00:14:27 Joscha Bach on mysterianism, telepathy, and consciousness.<br \/> 00:34:40 Joscha has a way of interpreting the Bible literally.<br \/> 00:42:01 Physical world vs Computational world.<br \/> 00:57:57 On G\u00f6del and changing the definition of truth to provable \/ computable.<br \/> 01:12:33 What parts of the mind makes statements beyond computation?<br \/> 01:13:57 Real numbers don\u2019t exist?<br \/> 01:15:23 [Prof. Edward Lee] Reality is not necessarily algorithmic.<br \/> 01:34:02 Donald Hoffman on Free Will.<br \/> 01:44:03 Joscha Bach on Free Will and whether a TOE exists.<br \/> 01:57:10 What would change in Bach\u2019s model if classical logic was correct?<br \/> 02:07:42 Penrose and Lucas argument regarding G\u00f6del and the mind.<br \/> 02:13:55 Closing thoughts from Bach and Hoffman on each other\u2019s work.<\/p>\n<p>Just wrapped (April 2021) a documentary called Better Left Unsaid <a href=\"http:\/\/betterleftunsaidfilm.com\">http:\/\/betterleftunsaidfilm.com<\/a> on the topic of \u201cwhen does the left go too far?\u201d Visit that site if you\u2019d like to watch it.<\/p>\n<div class=\"more-link-wrapper\"> <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/lifeboat.com\/blog\/2022\/08\/donald-hoffman-%ce%bb-joscha-bach-on-consciousness-free-will-and-godel-theolocution\">Continue reading \u201cDonald Hoffman \u039b Joscha Bach on Consciousness, Free Will, and G\u00f6del [Theolocution]\u201d | &gt;<\/a><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Deep dive into the nature of consciousness and reality. Sponsors: https:\/\/brilliant.org\/TOE for 20% off. For Algo\u2019s podcast https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UC9IfRw1QaTglRoX0sN11AQQ and website https:\/\/www.algo.com\/. Patreon: https:\/\/patreon.com\/curtjaimungal. Crypto: https:\/\/tinyurl.com\/cryptoTOE PayPal: https:\/\/tinyurl.com\/paypalTOE Twitter: https:\/\/twitter.com\/TOEwithCurt. Discord Invite: https:\/\/discord.com\/invite\/kBcnfNVwqs. iTunes: https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/ca\/podcast\/better-left-unsaid-wit\u20261521758802 Pandora: https:\/\/pdora.co\/33b9lfP Spotify: https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/4gL14b92xAErofYQA7bU4e. Subreddit r\/TheoriesOfEverything: https:\/\/reddit.com\/r\/theoriesofeverything. Merch: https:\/\/tinyurl.com\/TOEmerch. 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