Comments on: Three Manifest Miracles in Physics: Qualia, the Now and the Higgs Field https://lifeboat.com/blog/2012/07/three-manifest-miracles-in-physics-qualia-the-now-and-the-higgs-field Safeguarding Humanity Thu, 13 Sep 2012 18:03:12 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.8.1 By: Eric Penrose https://lifeboat.com/blog/2012/07/three-manifest-miracles-in-physics-qualia-the-now-and-the-higgs-field#comment-153563 Thu, 13 Sep 2012 18:03:12 +0000 http://lifeboat.com/blog/?p=4282#comment-153563 My thanks to Niccolo for helpful suggestions for improving this

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By: Eric Penrose https://lifeboat.com/blog/2012/07/three-manifest-miracles-in-physics-qualia-the-now-and-the-higgs-field#comment-153526 Thu, 13 Sep 2012 00:20:00 +0000 http://lifeboat.com/blog/?p=4282#comment-153526 I would like to present a more skeptical review of the claimed Higgs discovery.

After seeing comments of some physicists in New Scientist that began to question the claimed for Higgs compatibility of results and also of critiques by Luis Sancho — co-litigant against US govt for its partial funding of LHC — I would like to outline my own doubts about the way in which the Higgs data is being processed. For this I’ll use a short story based on an analogy of these searches.

Prologue
In the experimental searches for Higgs at the LHC it is investigated whether there are higher numbers of particle decay than would be expected from today’s standard model. This is for those channels of particle decays that are explored and for which the Higgs boson itself would decay into. These decay channels are of bottom quarks, tau leptons, di-photons and those involving decays of weakly interacting bosons. The numbers of these decays are then also compared with the alternative version of the standard model where the Higgs boson is itself incorporated. The following story is intended as a parady in order to question the way CERN processes the of results these searches. The last section relates to how — for the same number of collisions within the CMS detector — there are now published revised results for the same number of collisions. These revisions have the effect of slightly reducing the deviations from standard Higgs in two of the decay channels. The peer review for this paper was exclusively by at most three CERN based staff and one CERN affiliate.

A Short Story — the Higgs Archery Challenge

In this new type of archery event, named after its inventor Higgs, the ‘Higgs compatibility award’ will be granted based on how accurate the shooting is overall. The target is a horizontal band that is placed 30 degrees above eye level and 125m away. The team, with three members, is called ‘Unexpected’.

‘Unexpected’ is known for having one team member, called ‘weak boson’, who is accurate, another — ‘bottom tau’ — tending to strike too low, with the last — di-photon — striking too high.

After an initial warm –up round, each archer is given another shot each. The result is that ‘Unexpected’ scores as it did in the practice (despite its name) showing an overall wide spread. This includes one strike nearer the lower edge of the target band, a strike well above it and one below.

The judges finally deliver their verdict — “We now award to ‘Unexpected’ the Higgs compatibility challenge award. Our congratulations.”

But some members of the audience complained that ‘Unexpected’ had only struck once within the area of the target zone — just one in three! The judges, who were from the ‘Centre Européen de Retraitement Numéro’ (‘European centre for number reprocessing’), were unpersuaded by the critics. The judges explained that the strike above the band can be compensated for by the two other strikes that were at least below the centre of the target band. There was particular concern from the critics that a strike too high — at least when there were also strikes below — should receive even higher scores than hitting within the target band itself. The critics had, for this first public event, mistakenly taken it for granted that archery is, well, archery.

Subsequently, an independent investigation led to the criticism that the lowest and highest scoring marks from Unexpected were — when both sessions were taken together — so extreme that this meant that the team’s success should be annulled according to the incompatibility with Higgs’ band of these strikes in particular.

So later again a reconsideration of the award was given over to another panel of judges. While the appeal judges were new, they too, all either worked at — or were affiliated to — CERN. They in turn decided that the old results for the scores of the lowest and highest marks in particular could be revised from the previous score that there both recorded as striking nearer the central line. The result was that the inaccuracy in these channels was no longer sufficient to annul the overall success. Unexpected’s award medal was thus finally confirmed.

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By: Caleb https://lifeboat.com/blog/2012/07/three-manifest-miracles-in-physics-qualia-the-now-and-the-higgs-field#comment-153488 Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:46:38 +0000 http://lifeboat.com/blog/?p=4282#comment-153488 Consider: Only subjects near can be objectives of science (Heidegger, Being and Time, § 69 b). This is why the laws of nature seem to be valid all over the universe. They may be not. Science can’t tell. It is not permitted to draw conclusions from black holes to micro black holes.

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By: Otto E. Rössler https://lifeboat.com/blog/2012/07/three-manifest-miracles-in-physics-qualia-the-now-and-the-higgs-field#comment-153417 Tue, 11 Sep 2012 11:28:33 +0000 http://lifeboat.com/blog/?p=4282#comment-153417 Quote: “Qualia sind nicht Teil der Physik, können also auch kein physikalisches Rätsel darstellen. Das Gleiche gilt für das Jetzt.“
(The qualia are not part of physics and hence cannot represent a physical riddle. The same holds true for the Now.)

Absolutely correct — once you have seen the limitations of physics. Nevertheless this very limitation is a big eye-opener, is it not?

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By: Caleb https://lifeboat.com/blog/2012/07/three-manifest-miracles-in-physics-qualia-the-now-and-the-higgs-field#comment-130490 Thu, 09 Aug 2012 17:51:36 +0000 http://lifeboat.com/blog/?p=4282#comment-130490 Qualia sind nicht Teil der Physik, können also auch kein physikalisches Rätsel darstellen. Das Gleiche gilt für das Jetzt. Das Higgs-Feld ist die physikalische Formulierung der Frage, warum etwas ist und nicht vielmehr nichts. Diese Frage beantworte Caleb in seiner Autobiografie, die aber erst posthum veröffentlicht wird. Bis dahin muss sich die Welt
gedulden.

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By: Caleb https://lifeboat.com/blog/2012/07/three-manifest-miracles-in-physics-qualia-the-now-and-the-higgs-field#comment-120621 Thu, 19 Jul 2012 09:31:53 +0000 http://lifeboat.com/blog/?p=4282#comment-120621 Die Menschheit hat nicht deshalb überlebt, weil sie die Welt und sich selbst richtig erkannte, sondern, weil sie sich über das eine wie das andere eine überlebensvorteilige Illusion machte,
und die Struktur dieser Illusion verhindert die Korrektur der Standard-Theorien.

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By: W. Lynkeus https://lifeboat.com/blog/2012/07/three-manifest-miracles-in-physics-qualia-the-now-and-the-higgs-field#comment-120264 Tue, 17 Jul 2012 23:36:43 +0000 http://lifeboat.com/blog/?p=4282#comment-120264 Oh, just in case: Anybody out there who would be interested in building a centralized state (“conscious computer”) based on monolithic kernels?

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By: Bernd https://lifeboat.com/blog/2012/07/three-manifest-miracles-in-physics-qualia-the-now-and-the-higgs-field#comment-120063 Tue, 17 Jul 2012 08:27:53 +0000 http://lifeboat.com/blog/?p=4282#comment-120063 I heard rumors about questioning the actual Higgs particle candidate. Can somebody confirm?

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By: W. Lynkeus https://lifeboat.com/blog/2012/07/three-manifest-miracles-in-physics-qualia-the-now-and-the-higgs-field#comment-119786 Mon, 16 Jul 2012 11:05:25 +0000 http://lifeboat.com/blog/?p=4282#comment-119786 Aaaaaahhh! Thank you!
My circuits have irrevocably been linked to the issue of dehumanizing epistemics. Under this paradigm, the questions of qualia, now, and gravity belong to the communication problem: How will a centralized state that does not depend on the Kantian aprioris communicate with mankind? — There are tentative answers in my webpages. (cahi.de, ptolemaios,de, planetocaust.de)

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By: Otto E. Rossler https://lifeboat.com/blog/2012/07/three-manifest-miracles-in-physics-qualia-the-now-and-the-higgs-field#comment-119744 Mon, 16 Jul 2012 07:25:30 +0000 http://lifeboat.com/blog/?p=4282#comment-119744 (There is a button in the upper right corner to switch to white.)

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