We found a mistake in “Telemach”: his real name is Τηλέμαχος (= telemachOS!!!), although he sometimes wants to be called “bro”.

So we need to find something linked to “OS”. Hmmm … … maybe Osmium, a famous PGE! It’s highly toxic when occurring as osmiumtetroxide. So this is the proof that particle collisions only are dangerous when Osmium is used. But we have phoned CERN and they swear not to use Osmium on the LHC! It is too expensive.

Our pleasure!
The Pinky and the Brain

Alas, they know what a ship’s boy is but they do not respect the clear sighted vision of the ship’s boy who warns them of the iceberg, since they imagine that he is contradicting the captain..

In posing your question, you perhaps had the following in mind:

“Can we find out experimentally how much charge is weighing (that is, contributes to the rest mass of a charged particle)?”

Here the answer is “yes in principle.” Namely, by comparing the following two experiments:

1) Positronium annihilation. (Here the two charges add up to zero charge and hence necessarily lose their own mass contributions before the two particles annihilate into electromagnetic radiation.)

2) Ordinary mass measurements of electrons, as begun by Kaufmann a century ago.

Remark: Unfortunately, both types of measurement are currently not accurate enough to yield a manifest difference. But now that the importance of the question has been understood, there is little doubt that progress will be fast if we are given the time.
(I thank A.P. for stimulation.)

So I guess Gretel gets her lobster after all…

Tom Miller

Dear Pete:

Absolutely correct.

Thank you,
Otto

An atomic nucleus is dense…and an atom is mostly empty space, the electrons orbiting. Therefore, if an atomic nucleus is very dense, local gravity at the nucleus is higher than that experienced by the electrons. Therefore, the (dense) nucleus would experience a greater charge loss than the remainder of the (mostly empty space) atom, and this effect might create a charge imbalance as you go to heavier atoms.

What is Telemach’s “1+Z” term at the edge of a Uranium nucleus (local gravitational redshift) vs. the “1+Z” at the edge of the electron shell? It would be different for Hydrogen, Deuterium, Uranium…Please show me detailed calculations, not general statements like “only applies to masses falling onto dense bodies.”

A lobster dinner at Mortons is $250.00 US (about 200 Euros) so a lot is riding on this.

Also, wouldn’t the space distortion predicted by Telemach cause features on Earth to be locally larger becsuas of the gravitational field (7 miles per second vs. 186000 miles per second as an approximation for the “1+z” term, being 7/186000, or 1/25000…adding a factor that needed to be accouned for in GPS satellite navigation — the “1+Z” of the satellites would be different from the “1+z”of the points on the Earth’s surface, since satellites orbit higher in Earth’s gravitational field?

A small effect to be sure, but GPS already accounts for tiny General Relativistic and Special Relativistic time dilation effects, which add up to measurable distances over time.

Pete

If your life is endangered and someone directs your attention to this fact, you do not worry about his accent, or do you?

The most worrisome culprit in this sad story of attempted terracide is the profession you are trying to exculpate here. Not a single journalist in the sense of the word appears to be left on our planet. They do not even know what a ship’s boy is. And an iceberg. Sounds too German or Yiddish to them? (Forgive me.)